if the elders united, rebelled and shut up shop - would it bring down the wt.
they 'shepherd the flock' - does that make them more accountable than anyone else for the deception and lies and trickery and deceit.. are they all non-believers who are along for the ride ?.
are they cowardly for taking a stand ?.
Hi Lost. We HAD a good friend for over 20 years that was an elder and sub CO. We used to be able to talk to him about anything and he had mentioned a few doubts he had himself.
Not anymore, he's a gung ho compnay man that said I had independent apostate thinking and thought I was better than the org. So I believe that for the most part, they are partly responsible for what we see going on in the org today. They carry out the laws and punishments from the GB.
well a picture says a thousand words!
i had a tattoo done today.. it was actually interesting because as i was chit chatting with the tattoo artist, she asked me if this tattoo symbolized anything....well actually it does i told her.. me: i was a jw and they are strongly against tattoos or anything that is really "normal" for people.. tattoo artist: i know all about jw, my ex-girlfriend's family was all jw, and i remember one time going over to her parents house and her grandma sat us both down and made us read some scriptures from her bible as to why we were going to hell.. me: actually you will due at armageddon, that is the jw thing.. tatt artist: oh right that is what her grandma said.
i forgot about that, you're right.. so then the rest of the conversation was just me telling her it's a cult and i told her never listen to any jw who comes knocking.. something else interesting that happened just before i came on here.
I might even get one of Animal from the Muppets.
"god's servants on earth will not need to defend themselves against aliens from another planet.".
good to know- but strangely no scriptural reference for this gem..
BOO!
funny.
i had an interesting discussion this morning with an older guy in our little town.
so the stocker in the market is very outgoing and friendly to everyone.
I appreciate JWS for adding Barbara Anderson's thread about Russell being a Mason.
I don't know if he was or not, but I do know that he was into pyramids, he did have the Mason & Egyptian symbols all over his literature and he was favorable towards them. They even had a small news blurb about Mason's in a 1895 WT, in a good light.
funny.
i had an interesting discussion this morning with an older guy in our little town.
so the stocker in the market is very outgoing and friendly to everyone.
I don't know. I know there is a lot of controversy back & forth on that.
He was just telling me what the Mason library had said about the Russell family name being several generations of Masons and from his own observation of being with the Mason's and knowing that Russell's pyramid is in the Mason part of the cemetary and was a honor and show of respect for a Mason of his 33rd degree.
i am an inactive jw.
i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.
i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.
I was unfriended and shunned by every JW on my Facebook. NOT because I 'liked' the AAWA, but because I posted a link to the show 48 hours that was about an elder having an affair with his EX-wife and his new wife ended up dead.
JW's are judgemental, critical and fanatical.
I don't know the details, but If you 'liked' AAWA on your Facebook then everyone on there would know. I don't believe for a minute that Cedars would do any of this deliberately.
You may have to change your privacy settings on your Facebook
And please, everyone. don't 'LIKE or COMMENT on' ANYTHING that would be questionable to a JW on your Facebook page because everyone on there will see it.
how many jw suicides can you recall?.
is it more common than the rest of society?.
i personally know of 5.
3 of I know personally, including my little brother because, even tho he was never baptized the family was shunning him because he was gay.
funny.
i had an interesting discussion this morning with an older guy in our little town.
so the stocker in the market is very outgoing and friendly to everyone.
Because I just got back from town...
The older guy seemed lucid and dead serious.
He also told me that his aged mother is now in a nursing home and has lost her mind. She has always been a fine upstanding JW and did everything she was supposed to do, but now that she has lost it, she is sleeping with all the little old men in the nursing home. The elders called up Thomas' brother, who is still a gung ho JW and told him that he had to do something about their mother because she was fornicating with all the old men at the home. The brother told them, there is nothing I can do, she has lost her mind and doesn't even know what year it is or what she is doing. They told his brother that they were going to havet o DF her then for her indiscretions. The brother was mad because all the years of faithful service and now they want to DF her.
I talked to him for about an hour. I cannot verify if what he told me is true or not.
But he did tell me that even after all these years, he'll try to go do something like go back to his art work and get them put in galleries and feels that old mind control kick in and say why bother armegeddon is so close.
the evil apostate fan club
what if there were such a thing?
{cue daydream sequence and music}.
Had to revive this one:
I'm an evil, acid spitting apostate!
BOO!
over the past 8 months or so three people i have known since childhood have accomplished a goal of reinstatement back into their congregations after many years of being disfellowshipped primarily so that they could gain their jw family members back and do away with the condemnation of onlookers judging those family members and the contact they have had during those years of being disfellowshipped.. all of these newly reinstated ones immediately began a proper fade.
no meetings, no service, nada.. is this happening everywhere and regularly?.
I understand now why my family and our elders are shunning me then. Even if you're just inactive, you're still an evil apostate.
